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Stairway to Heaven

22:51 / 08.01.03

Sometimes I remember things in my dreams and suddenly that things came together and they have some mystical meaning.

OK.

I like R&R from 60, 70 and 80 and when I was in junior high school, around 1990 my friends and I discovered that some songs played backwards had some evil messages. A teachers help us with this issue and gave us a booklet with some details about the groups and songs that could "damage" our mind. Led Zeppelin, Beatles, Queen, Eagles, Iron Maiden, Black Sabath, etc.

Two or three days ago I was listening Led Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven and later I was watching a show called Legends from VH1 Channel. They talked about all the albums and the covers and there is a cover with some strange sigils and they also talked about the link between Jimmy Page and Aleister Crowley. Jimmy Page was a kind of magick student. The show also talked about some magick rituals that Led Zeppelin performed. I am listening righ now Stairway to Heaven again and all came together, the music the lyrics, it's a spell.

There was no evil messages there are spells.Have someone noticed something like this before? or I'm just paranoid.

I hope I made myself clear. =)

JJPL

23:30 / 08.01.03

You can make mystically significant meaning from anything. Don't get too caught up in where the meaning comes from (ie Stairway to Heaven) just let the meaning come from wherever it comes from, understand it, use it, keep going. Don't go off on a tangent about the magickal significance of music. Too many people posting on this site are showing tendencies to go off on tangents which cumulatively waste years of learning time. Thats what Will is for, to stop you wasting time on these tangents.

17:27 / 09.01.03

I'm rookie with all this magick thing and since I began practicing it my mind is noticing things that I can't see before. I am dreaming more, I can sense, hear and taste thing in a different way. What I mean is that I discovered new meanings for regular things, I don't want to get off on a tangent I just want to know if I'm on the right way or if I am missing something.

19:16 / 09.01.03

Good Morning Sunshine!

Feels good, doesn't it?

20:05 / 09.01.03

Jimmy Page was a kind of magick student. The show also talked about some magick rituals that Led Zeppelin performed. – Hellboy

I've not seen the television show you mention, but I wonder where they got the information on Zeppelin doing "magick rituals." Out of the four members, the only member with any sort of magickal interest was Page. It's difficult to discern if that interest is/was genuine or if it was used as a marketing tool during that period of time (Page was, and is, very savvy about such things).

As for "backwards messages" and such, I suspect you're hearing what you want to hear. Most bands can't really be arsed to waste precious studio time & money to do that sort of thing. When they do, it's often done for humour and not taken very seriously.

20:15 / 09.01.03

There's was a big thing about backwards masking (as it's called in the biz) at the height of the Satanic Abuse scare in the late 80's/ early 90's. Just like the Satanic Abuse scare, it was proven to be a load of cock. Hallucinations caused by extreme Christianity.

Judas Priest were taken to court by the family of one young guy who attempted suicide. He survived with half his face shot off and the family alledged it was because of brainwash caused by the record - they alleged that his subconcious had picked up on the message hidden away in the track even though it was playing backward and caused the suicide. Nothing to do with being brought up in a family of small minded bigots, obviously. It was thrown out of court.

Perhaps someone could provide a link?

20:42 / 09.01.03

Try this. Listen to Bohemian Rapsody by Queen forwards/normally/not backwards - when you would normally hear 'Is this just fantasy' you will hear 'Is this just Battersea'. Try it, it will work.

Now, imagine what I could make you hear playing songs backwards...

Yes, you guessed it; your mind has evolved over millions of years to make sense of any and all available information. Even the garbled sounds of music played backwards can be interpreted by the mind into something meaningful.

However, this does not mean that you're making it up. Actually, you are, but you are making it up from evidence provided, however obscurely, by the universe, and therefore however weird and strange, it is also true, in as much as nothing is true, everything is possible.

Experiment, it will all make sense if you experiment.

20:49 / 09.01.03

A dear friend of mine once told me about how they played "Darkside of the Moon", the entire album...er, cd...sychronized with a muted "Wizard of Oz". Apparently, it works out quite well, although I personally have never tried this.

Nietzsch E. Coyote

20:53 / 09.01.03

That works better if you actually have the old vinyl.

20:56 / 09.01.03

I don't know about any of that lot being there on purpose, but I do know that you can hear all sorts of strange things playing music backwards. The mind will try its damndest to connect the dots and make language out of it. You might even try that as a means of divination, even.

The only artist I know of who intentionally backmasks is Kate Bush, and she does it the creepy way of actually singing the backmasking. Stuff like "the storm is coming" in Hounds of Love. But that's just her being cool and wierd, not necesarily magickal.

The Return Of Rothkoid

21:21 / 09.01.03

Judas Priest Subliminal Message Trial

Reversespeech.com's page on the trial.

03:11 / 10.01.03

Number nine...number nine...number nine...number nine...number nine...

09:12 / 11.01.03

Try this. Listen to Bohemian Rapsody by Queen forwards/normally/not backwards - when you would normally hear 'Is this just fantasy' you will hear 'Is this just Battersea'. Try it, it will work.

Absolutely.

When I was in high school, a friend of mine and I invested a ton of time trying to puzzle out the lyrics to Queen's "Flick of the Wrist"--they weren't in the liner notes. After a couple three weeks, we had it all figured out, and had read a bunch of meaning into it.

Several years later, I saw the actual lyrics. What we thought we'd heard bore no resemblance--and I mean nil, nyet, nada, zip and zilch--to the actual lyrics.

The Prover proves what the Thinker thinks.