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Divination 2003.

 
  

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mixmage
01:00 / 02.01.03
Okay... having recovered from my hangover, I decided to choose a single card to represent the major thrust of the year ahead of me. I shuffled my Tarot while asking for a single card. Two flipped.

ahhh... so it's these you want to give me. Fine.

The first card was 15 The Devil, backed up by the eight of wands. It made me laugh - I know what they are talking about. And 15+8=23 just made me laugh more. Feel free to give me your interpretation, or post your own forecasts.

[Incidentally, while reading the Barbelith entry for The Devil, Rex's post about "hir fault" stopped me dead. He mentions Kaizer Soze. While finding links for my scorpion post, I noticed one name being referred to in the medical field of toxins. Kobayashi. I decided not to put it there - Barbelith countermands again!]
 
 
penitentvandal
11:00 / 02.01.03
Interesting. My chart of simple meanings of the major arcana (compiled by someone on the 'Lith who i don't remember - sorry!) gives the Devil as 'destruction of ego's intellectual state of being. Objective change!'. Douglas' 'The Tarot' gives 8 wands as 'hopeful change, movement, activity...Suggests a suitable time for taking the initiative, acting with courage and self-confidence, and grasping opportunities as they occur...the promotion of understanding and co-operation.'

Yeah. I think I know what they're trying to tell us, too.

Hexagram 2(00)3 - 'splitting apart' - represents the overcoming of the 'superior' forces by the 'inferior'. Now, I'm no I Ching expert, but taking this in conjunction with the Tarot reading, and my own intuitions about the year to come, I make the following judgement:

2003 will be a bad time for entrenched power structures and so-called 'superior' people everywhere. Whether we're talking about the US government, religious fundamentalists of any stripe, or just your local bank manager. 2003 will be a good time for crazy, Discordian-style thinking, mass movements, and new ideas. After the stable, balanced, unchanging year too-oh-oh-too, which was very much a year of consolidation, the chaos unleashed in 2001 will start to bear real creative fruit on a grand scale. Look for the energies peaking in October/November (in line with the hexagram), possibly even around Samhain.

In more specific terms I think we're looking at a war in Iraq which will probably lead to Saddam Hussein being unseated but will also lead to a more vociferous anti-war movement in Britain and America, along with major questioning of the political and religious assumptions, in both the Western and Islamic worlds, that have got us into this mess. Al-Qaeda will probably appear superficially strong at the start of the year, but will wane as things move on, given that their power is based very much on an authoritarian meme. Look for economic instability as the captains of industry come up against the chaos, too. Property prices will probably peak ('going thru' the roof' in a literal interpretation of the hexagram) and then begin to decline, hopefully to some kind of sensible level again. The economic downturn will feed into greater dissatisfaction with the powers that be, strengthening the anti-authoritarian meme.

On a personal level, well, I intend to spend my time doing what I do best, injecting creative chaos into ordered systems, seeing what happens, and harvesting the by-products. And having fun into the bargain, too, of course.

That's my prediction children, and believe it if you will - after all, I was bang-on about the Sniper, wasn't I?

Moo hoo ha ha!
 
 
mixmage
17:56 / 02.01.03
Thanks You plush protagonist...

When I shuffled, I was actually thinking about how the year would impact me personally - As above, so below it seems. After posting, I drew a third card to balance things out. Seven of Swords.

Apart from bringin the numbers total up to 3, it also reinforces the "falling short" aspect of the reading. Seems like they want the Energiser Bunny - Warning me that the slackness of the previous few years will not be tolerated. This year is when I start paying... in sweat. heh.

In related news, 2003 is the year of the sheep/goat. Why do I feel like quoting Hannibal Smith?
 
 
enough
21:24 / 02.01.03
Ah lads

I pulled my I CHING for 2003and was met with XLVI.(46)

(Nothing is more fun than pulling you I ching...)

But...

2003 is supposed to be I ching hexagram 20.

2006 is the 23rd Hexagram.

Back with more when I retrieve my notes.
 
 
enough
21:26 / 02.01.03
>>>A side note:<<<

My first prophetic dream of the new year, though I am embarassed to say...

Eminem and Britney Murphy accepting an awar for 8 mile at an awards show. ( think it was MTV MOVIE AWARDS)

We'll see.
 
 
illmatic
22:13 / 02.01.03
Drugs Bunny - howja mean, 2003= hexagram 20? Just curious... from Velvet Vandal's post or from another source? Gotta say I take the negative interpretation of this and see it refering to War. Did it change into anything else, VV?

Doing a spontaneous spur of the moment thingy, I can take Pushing Upward (46) to be the second part of this divination - in this instance, how we've got to respond ie. take the postive and build with it, even in such dire circumstances.

I pulled a card this morning after being inspired by Mixmage's post - what I got back I felt reflects me at the moment, lots of get up and go.

Dunno how i feel about interpreting yours MM - you seem to have got a pretty good idea about it already..
 
 
Kobol Strom
19:19 / 03.01.03
I dreamt that S.Hussein fired a nuclear missile at the country Israel,and in the aftermath,many countries made dangerous political accusations at each other as to who was to blame.After this short but very scary period, Americas Army destroyes the Iraqi Military Infrastructure using conventional weapons.

In the far future I saw a map that had Italy renamed as 'The Skies of the Killing Fields'.

I see blackened churches and floating Mosks.

I see a close call with an asteroid that fills the sky as it goes by,and it makes us realise how small we are.It changes the conceptual understanding of our relationship to the Universe.

I see the Earth under attack from space,the skies turn purple,evil bug ships firing death rays.

I don't have a timeframe for any of this though.
 
 
Mike
21:55 / 03.01.03
2003 is the year of the Sheep (Hitsuji) in the Japanese Lunar Calendar

The ruling planet for 2003 is the Sun (following on from last years ruler, Mars, which caused a lot of conflicts to break out last year, so we probably won't see an end this year to the conflicts that have already started, but we probably won't see many more conflicts starting this year either)

On January 14th it will be 2756 years since the founding of Rome (not much use in any predictions, but quite interesting)

On January 1st the moon was 27 days old so lunar influences this year will be slightly biased towards waning cresent (in other words, throughout this year there will be a mild waning cresent influence, regardless of the actual moon phase)
 
 
penitentvandal
13:34 / 05.01.03
Mr Ill - I was going on instinct. I'm no I ching expert by any means, but I was meditating on the hexagram in terms of what it would mean in 2003, and pondering the significance of mixmage's cards. I haven't done a proper divination for the year to come yet, largely because I only finished getting my new year sigils done on new year's eve and I've been rather busy since then testing Rex's theories on whether sexual intercourse is detrimental to the magus...

I see Hex 23 (Hex 23! What a name! Let's form a band, quick! I can play maracas, the tambourine, and the zither, if that helps...) as referring to the destruction of stable power structures - i.e. houses getting broken, the 'superior' being destroyed by the 'inferior'. It all adds up to a bad time for the bosses, in my book. The mass movement I see manifesting will be more of a pastoral, hippy vibe than the turn-of-the-millennium Stormer Children of Horus vibe, with less of the annoying emphasis on Nathan Barley-esque 'urban cool' that we've seen lately. Y'know, like the 60s - major foreign war, racist establishment, a big rise in interest in Tolkien - and more wyrd, psychedelic music. I mean, y'know, that electroclash thing was an embarassment, the big urban superclubs are going downhill like Eddie Edwards on a nuclear toboggan, the BBC has an 'urban music' station now, Eminem's having a movie made about him and Linkin Park are the world's first industrial-metal boy band - the city is no longer cool, people. We're gonna get more interesting stuff from the provinces than from the major metropolitan centres for a while, although London will, as usual, snap everything up in its vampiric fashion. I think. 'And you can trust me, because I never lie, and I'm always right...'

Personally, I see 2003 as a good year for me to divest myself of the smug arrogance I developed while invoking Chango and Yemaya over the last couple of years and have fun playing around in an Erisian stylee. I intend to destroy my Magneto-esque notion of being a superior Nietzschean uber-mage deliberately, to avoid the necessity of anyone else doing it for me...Hey, I've done it already. Cool.

Fnord. Pffffrrrrt!
 
 
illmatic
18:39 / 05.01.03
Interesting that, I wonder, kinda hope so... will stick a link I read earlier today in the Transducer thread.
 
 
enough
21:28 / 06.01.03
...On January 14th it will be 2756 years since the founding of Rome...

and 2+7+5+6=20 hmmm

interesting.

I got my information from the Eastern Mysteries by D A Hulse. A compilation of several sources on the I chinng amongst others. Not sure of his exact source but I'll check.

46 - yeah, I have that war vibe also. Especially the part about "entering the vacant city..." and "pushing upwards..."
 
 
000
13:47 / 07.01.03
Kobol Strom:
"In the far future I saw a map that had Italy renamed as 'The Skies of the Killing Fields'.

I see blackened churches and floating Mosks.

I see the Earth under attack from space,the skies turn purple,evil bug ships firing death rays."

What an interesting dream. Have these often?
 
 
Joe
05:19 / 08.01.03
Isn't this dream all a bit Nostradamus induced, maybe you shouldn't read him while taking acid.
By the way I don't mean to sound arrogant but I have a degree in archaeology and that is only the rough mythical date for the founding of Rome, it was actually around the 460s BCE.
Now as some of you are starting to realise this year is very important. We should not just joke around about it but use its power and merits to do the thins all magi should. We must utilise and focus the energies there is a lot of pain and death coming, but we must accept this and deal with it. Let us stop with the pussyfooting around and the simple base witchcraft and shamanism and start doing things hardcore, some start with Chaos magic but this too is overly simple. We need to get focused on the high level occult magicks and ippssissimal works. I am willing to provide assisstance and guidance for any who need it. The time is upon us people magick will arise triumphant and the world will be purified. We must start to bring others into the fold and establish ourselves an order of purity and guidance, many of you are not ready an I do not hold the arrogance to say that I should be a leader, but I am a teacher and a guide, maybe some of you have realised who I am. When you are ready I will meet you on the crossroads of the elements and if you are ready you will see everything.
 
 
adamswish
13:40 / 08.01.03
you krazy kids and your tarot/i ching.

personnally I did a 12 month reading for myself at 1.30 in the morning of Jan 1st.

Like mage I have a tarot card for this year. Unlike him it's prescribed by a bit of mathematics curtosey of the great beast himself(I've mentioned this before, but bear with me as I repeat myself).

For your growth card take day of birth, add to month of birth then add to this year. So mine comes out as "The Hanged Man". Interesting enough this card also appeared in my new year reading in the seventh position of the celtic cross, representing the questioner.

The description of possibilities of letting go old compulsions and gaining new perspectives is all very interesting. Even more so as mind is currently tackling the knowledge that I'm 30 this year too.

The reading itself was for me, I don't try to understand the ways of the world, just see how best to get through them.
 
 
Kobol Strom
17:06 / 08.01.03
'isn't this dream all a bit Nostradamus induced, maybe you shouldn't read him while taking acid.'

I don't read him at all and I've never taken acid.These dreams happen often ,I sometimes post them here because I am interested in peoples dreams and enjoy reading them, and reading into them.
 
 
penitentvandal
17:32 / 08.01.03
The time is upon us people magick will arise triumphant and the world will be purified. We must start to bring others into the fold and establish ourselves an order of purity and guidance

Well, count me out for a start. I'm pretty far from pure and I don't even know where I'm goin', really, so I doubt I can provide guidance for anybody.

And, erm, well...How exactly do you see the world being 'purified'? If this is one of those deals where loads of folk have to die pointless and meaningful deaths from war, famine or plague, then I'm definitely not in. I'd rather try and save the 'impure' folk, thanks for asking.

Still, if you are an ipsi- ipssisi - one o'them, and you are advanced enough to help everyone make the world better, and your motives are good, then good luck to you.

As to who you are - do you have spikey blonde(ish) hair and glasses?
 
 
Mike
21:05 / 08.01.03
There will always be people who react to their sense of major-things-happening-in-the-near-future either in a the-end-of-the-world-is-nigh way or in a the-day-of-redemption-is-at-hand way. I call these people drama queens. Yes, 2003 will be eventful - there will be 365 days for things to happen in, and billions of people for those things to happen to. However, in the grand scheme of things, nothing much will happen in 2003 at all. People will be born. People will live. People will die. Some of the people in the middle (ie living) will spend some agonising moments wishing they could be at either end (ie wishing they would die or wishing that they had never been born). The rest will get on and deal with life as it comes.
 
 
Joe
04:58 / 09.01.03
I'm sorry about the acid gag kobol storm, I have just heard these sorts of things so many times.
As for velvet vandal you are correct- the word is ipssissimus, but there is more to me than this. Do not be overly dramatic a lot will go on astrally. But as to purity that is down to your conscious and we all want to help not destroy but sometimes it is not that simple. As to my identity yes I do wear glasses and have light brown hair- that varies from stubbly to short and spikey. Are you on to something (?), if so message me privately.
 
 
Stone Mirror
06:47 / 11.01.03
the word is ipssissimus

No, the word is ipsissimus.

I'm supposed to believe that you've attained the consciousness of Kether, the highest grade in the Western initiatic orders? Damn, son, you can't even spell it. You're burying the needle on my baloney meter.

Maybe you oughta hasten yourself back on up to the astral plane, get back to working with them "spheres and energies". I'm sure you'd be much more comfortable there. Better received, too, no doubt. Down around here, I'm afraid you're coming off like either a fraud or a lunatic.

But as to purity that is down to your conscious and we all want to help not destroy but sometimes it is not that simple.

You should have concentrated as much on grammar and forming basic sentences as you did on "Tarot, astrology, tattwa, chieromancy (palmistry), oneiromancy (dream interpretation), hydromancy, pyromancy, geomancy (Perdurabo, a.k.a. Crowley's favourite), and several others". You teach English, you say? This scarcely even qualifies as a sentence.
 
 
Stone Mirror
09:56 / 13.01.03
...maybe some of you have realised who I am...

Um, David Berkowitz's neighbor's dog?
 
 
Rev. Wright
19:37 / 13.01.03
Last year for me was a tiring and somewhat emotional event horizon of channelled info, intuitions, previous readings, and even more discovery. ('Onions have layers') For the vast majority of the year I followed a runic ingestion practice, the results are posted on the Barb rune thread, and with it came the outgrowing of previous behaviours, grooves, trips, etc. So umsurprisingly I have the Death card crop up in my first spread of the year (damn, no long term honeyz on the horizon just yet, still at least I get to achieve some major goals), so when I accidently pick up, from an older unused deck of cards, the Death card, I ritually tear it up and vocalise my ridding of outdated patterns.
2003 is developing into a year of removing my self-imposed fetters and getting on with it. It could also be a year of Do or DIE

'suppose I wanted to get that of my chest and share it
 
 
LVX23
20:49 / 13.01.03
Personally, I don't think it's safe to recommend ipsissimus-level work to anyone in whose ability you don't already have the utmost faith. That's like arming children with automatic rifles to fight your holy war. And if a magickal order replaces the current order, then I suppose I will have to fight against that too.

Convictions cause convicts.
 
 
The Monkey
21:25 / 13.01.03
Hopefully the coming day of purification will teach proper comma use, too.
 
 
Joe
05:21 / 15.01.03
Sorry I am more interested in getting a message across than checking my grammar is perfe3ct, after all English is not a perfect language to get across deep spiritual and magickal content.
chris23 you have a good point I am trying to boost people along a preset path to help them release there fullest potential not just shove them straight to ipsissimus. My convictions are simply to assist people's spiritual evolution. I am not seeking converts or folowers just offering to share knowledge.
 
 
mixmage
06:18 / 15.01.03
right now, there are 2003 threads in Conversation.

am I the only person keeping an eye on the important stuff?

And yeah... real busy, just like the reading suggested.
 
 
Stone Mirror
15:34 / 15.01.03
Sorry I am more interested in getting a message across than checking my grammar is perfe3ct

You're doing a abysmally inadequate job on both fronts, I'm afraid. You'd appear to be, on first blush, as much of an English teacher as a magician.

Over and out.
 
 
Stone Mirror
18:36 / 15.01.03
Sorry, one last point. This is Crowley, speaking on the grade of Ipsissimus, in Magick in Theory and Practice (emphasis mine):

[The Ipsissimus] is sworn to accept this Grade in the presence of a witness, and to express its nature in word and deed, but to withdraw Himself at once within the veils of his natural manifestation as a man, and to keep silence during his human life as to the fact of his attainment, even to the other members of the Order.
 
 
penitentvandal
22:33 / 15.01.03
So you see, only the true ipsissimus denies he's an ipsissimus.

So, if you'll allow me to jump comedic reference points here, what you'd be looking for, were you trying to find an ipsissimus, would be someone who, when asked 'Are you an ipsissimus?' would reply 'No, sir, I am not...'

You see.
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
22:42 / 15.01.03
I see Mixmage travelling a vast distance...over the ocean...to...Canada! I see Mage and I finally getting together ...and...what's that...Fungus! Yes I see fungus! ...and debauchery!

Am I close?
 
 
Joe
05:22 / 16.01.03
As Asa pointed out I am doing this because I feel time is short. After years of silence I must admit the truth.
 
 
mixmage
06:33 / 16.01.03
Close enough to spit in my eye, you loose-lipped floozy!

What would Red say if she knew about your dishonourable intentions toward my person? tut! You're a Family Guy now... time to grow some morals!

hmmm... I see... a plane ticket... no, wait... it's fading... ah, yes... I see Rex paying for it by credit card... and a five star hotel... and... and... a chauffer-driven Limo with jacuzzi and minibar.

Am I getting close?
 
 
LVX23
19:26 / 16.01.03
I did a Thoth div last night (5-card cross). The query: Characterize the year 2003.

Coming into the matter: Atu 15, the Devil

Conscious influence: 6 of Swords, Science

Subconscious influence: 7 of Cups, Debauch

Result of the matter: 4 of Discs, Power

Key: Queen of Discs

Analysis: The Devil, informing the year, is two-fold - the drive of nature exalted (Pan), and the impact of Bin Laden (ill-dignified; Crowley refers to the desert and the Cult of the Mountain. Hassan-I-Sabbah=Bin Laden). While the perfect morality of science seeks balance with the corruption of society, the consolidation of power by the Corporate Empire of America will continue, increasing law & order in the name of security. However, beneath it all, the pastoral vibe is growing in the populace - we long for simpler days (the 4 of Discs can be seen as lending power to the Underground as well as to the State - the card is still exalted and only just below the Supernals). The best tactic is to be good to each other and not overtly threaten power structures - they will fall of their own accord.

Recurring themes of the reading: Capricorn, Queen, spiral horns, wide open lands, barren becoming fertile
 
 
Wrecks City-Zen
19:39 / 16.01.03
Seems the devil keeps recurring,hmm? My question is: Is this really the indicator for the year or the time period we are in now? Since every one is doing their readings for the yearin the time period / sign of Capricorn...hmm?

( ...I am so smart...I am so smart... S-M-R-T...I mean S-M-A-R-T)

Mage: A message from Cityzen Red:

...bite me...FNORD!

Rex says: I hope that was spit in your eye! Floozy, my eye! Sorry to spill the beans...or bangers in your neck of the woods.
 
 
cusm
00:58 / 17.01.03
Ifá Predictions for the 2003 Year.

For Cuba and the World.



To the priests of Ifá, to our brothers the Oriatés, Babaloshas, Iyaloshas, and Iworos.

[To the] Religious Public in general.



On December 31, 2002, 800 priests of Ifá came together, representing the great majority of the branches or families of Cuba, counting as well the support of Ifá priests of the following countries: Brazil, Belgium, Colombia, Costa Rica, Spain, the United States, México, Italy, Great Britain, Panama, Puerto Rico, Venezuela, and Switzerland. They met in the house-templ situated at 1509 Diéz de Octubre Avenue between Josefina and Gertrudis, Vibora, in the Diéz de Octubre Municipality, City of Havana, Cuba.



Ifá priest Guillermo Diago “Ogbe Weñe presided over the ceremony and the youngest priest took out the sign, being present the great number of Ifá priests of ample capability and recognized national and international prestige, whose analysis and evaluation the present document lays out.



Ruling Sign: Ogundá Ogbe

This sign is also know as “Ogundá sorí ire fogbe”—“Ogundá secures the blessed head and gives it to Ogbe”



Ogundá Abedé—Ogún executes a clean cut with the sword.



Prophecy: Osobo Ikú Intorí Arojé (Death though a dispute, debate, or affront)



Olofin Onire: Olofin blesses.



Offering to Echú: 3 balls of corn flour cooked with bird feed.



Ruling Deity: ELEGUA (known in Cuba and America as Eshú. Elegba is the divinity of merchants and service workers.



Accompanying Deity: OSHÚN (Goddess of motherhood and protector of children. Worshipped in Nigeria, especially in the Ijumu and Oshogbo regions, where the river bearing her name is found).



Flag of the Year: Half White and Half Black, with Yellow Borders.



The distribution of this document is free and the Commission is not responsible for any sale that people motivated by profit make of it.




Illnesses that will increase their incidence



-Grave neurological and psychological illnesses.

-Sicknesses of the throat.

-Infectious, contagious illnesses.

-Increase of and trouble from lower stomach illnesses along with the dangers of surgical intervention

-Illnesses in the liver.

-Poisoning from the consumption of bad food or badly prepared food.

-Pregnant women should follow with absolute care their medical recomendations.




Social Occurrences



-Increase in robbery.

-Increase in violence.

-Congenital deformation produced through the union of people of incompatible blood groups.

-The discovery of a new species (genetic hybrids).

-The death of elderly and people highly regarded worldwide.

-Peoples subordinated (enslaved) as the result of wars.

-The fall of governments ([through] international consensus and military intervention).

-The spread of an illness generated by pig livestock that could affect other livestocks.

-Difficulties in the pharmacological industry.

-Unseasonable irregularities in climate will continue.

-Inadequacy of medal diagnoses and in the application of medicines.

-Problems in commerce (deceptions, frauds, stealing, and violent acts).

-Accidents provoked cracks and potholes.

-Increase in matrimonial infidelity with the risk of deaths.

-The breaking of commercial contracts.

-An increase in dissipation (consumption of drugs and alcohol).

-Marital violence with dangerous repercussions for the stability of the children in particular and the family in general.

-It is recommended not to go back the same way late at night.



Special note: those who were condemned in court (Eyó) during the rule of the previous sign of the year, Ogbe Oguna (Ogbe Yono) will be punished by death (Ikú) during the rule of the present sign, Ogunda Ogbe (Ogunda Abedé). Both are Omó Iyá (brothers) and one continues the rule of the other.


Recommendations



-Be careful of cracks and potholes.

-Be careful, it should be said again, with the consumption of pork meat.

-Decrease the use and consumption of Okra.

-It is recommended to be honest and honorable.

-Respect the orders of those in authority.

-Make sure your children aren’t lax about issues important to their elders.

-Call meetings for purposes of reconciliation.

-Be careful about the participation of women in government affairs.

-We recommend promoting new maternity programs and the protection of children.

-A rise in the market and in community service centers.

-Treating neurological problems with Calaguala Root and Ginger.

-Precaution in the consumption of stuffed foods (croquettes, meatballs, stuffed potatoes, etc.), taking special acre with the quality of ingredients they are made of and the places they’re produced and consumed.


Religious Aspects



-The fulfilling of debts to the orishas is recommended.

-Those with Odúa marked should receive him.

-Those with Olokun marked should receive him.

-Those with the TWINS marked should receive them and give them celebrations.

-Those with Osha marked should go through with it.

-Ceremonies should be made with Eleguá and Ogún at the front door.



Proverbs



-The king gives up his crown before he dies.

-Speaking free of argument makes clears up many things.

-With the help of Ifá, a single man can challenge 30 men to fight and win.

-If a slave dies, only his mother grieves for him.

-The powerful one frees himself and unties the bonds of everyone else.

-The adulterous woman experiences living death in the house of her husband.

-He who can never steal enough can’t conceal the stealing.

-Honesty is the best policy.

-I have a weakness for things I love (i.e., before my boy and quimbombó—okra, or my palette or taste—I easily give in [muchacho y quimbombó, delante de ellos me agacho yo]).

-The prodigious thief steals from other crooks and succeeds in making off with the loot of whoever is guarding it.

-The male monkey uses his head in order to avoid death.

-The trunk of a tree doesn’t shake.

-While he’s in this world, the buzzard doesn’t feed on plants (i.e., he eats carrion).





The Comisión Organizadora of the Odu of the Year wishes you a Happy and Prosperous 2003.
 
 
cusm
00:59 / 17.01.03
Note also that Ellegua/Legba/Eshu/Exu is the lord of the crossroads, often seen as The Devil in the same way the Horned One is.
 
  

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