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Vidocq - by Pitof

 
 
Sebastian
15:04 / 15.12.02


Anybody saw this?? I know its the second french film I recommend, but believe me I am not a particular fan of french cinema.

Whatever, if you thought the From Hell adaptation was a crap, if you like good movie narration of a detective story in a haunted 1830 Paris with fantastic, terror, and supernatural suspense overtones, and if you ever yearned and enjoyed to see movies honoring the literary short-story tradition of gothic mistery derived from LeFanu, Blackwood, Poe and those Stevenson-ian elegant and striking last moment tale twists, then, well, move your butt off the chair and go see a copy of it.

Hope you like it.
 
 
videodrome
15:23 / 15.12.02
Haven't seen this yet, though I've heard good things for a while. And isn't Vidocq a character that's floated through French cinema for many years, not unlike Dr Mabuse? Seems to me that I've read about many films that have involved the character, but I've never seen any of them, French imports not being all that common in the states.
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
15:25 / 15.12.02
Have heard a lot about it, and didn't like what i heard.

It seems it uses too many special effects and zero plot and character development

Still, i have to admit the villain's outfit is brilliant, especially the face, and the trailer seems interesting, as the period was well brought to life.

I plan to see it one day, but for now recommend Sleepy Hollow as a pleasant alternative
 
 
The Photographer in Blowup
15:33 / 15.12.02
Eugène François Vidocq (1775-1857) was one of the greatest criminals of France until he decided to use his knowledge to aid the police, which led him to become the chief of Sûreté (french police)

He was a master in disguise, knew the streets and its elements and was a good spy - police altered his documents so he could be released from prison and work for them (he began as a spy inside prison)

He was the model for Sherlock Holmes, and Edgar Poe's detective, Auguste Dupin.
 
 
Sebastian
20:22 / 15.12.02
It seems it uses too many special effects and zero plot and character development

That's what you've probably read in the american reviews. There are special effects but you don't even realise them because there is simply no exhibitionism of them, just because the aren't too many and they fit within the story, so you don't even register them as "special FX". The villain has no face, its a mirror.

And sorry, but there is no "zero" plot. In fact, there is only what it is, plot, and an accordingly paced narrative to serve it, which is the whole point about telling a story. The character development is perfectly fit to the pacing of the story, and relies heavily on the characterisation and on the physique du role of the actors. Characterisation draws somewhat heavily on well established archetypes from detectivesque and fantastic literature: the pioneer private detectives of the beginning of the nineteenth century, the legendary villain, the politicized policemen boss-thug, the actress-lover, the young biographer, and so. It adds to the enjoyment if you are familiar with this type of story, and I admit you might be a bit lost without it.

Anyway, go check the french and italan reviews of Vidocq.

And I liked and enjoyed a lot Sleepy Hollow, but by comparison its a bit like the Disneyland version, and a bit more narratively convoluted. This one is more synthetic and to the point.
 
 
videodrome
21:20 / 15.12.02
Eugène François Vidocq (1775-1857) was one of the greatest criminals of France until he decided to use his knowledge to aid the police, which led him to become the chief of Sûreté (french police)

Ah, yes, that's it. Cool. And that's essentially the story of the guy who's inspired the new Spielberg pic, too - Catch Me If You Can. Got to talk to that guy the other day, and he was really intriguing. Love the master criminal to master lawman progression.
 
 
bjacques
00:14 / 16.12.02
I bought the DVD and kicked my self for having missed it on the big screen. It was playing in Amsterdam for a long time. We get a lot of French movies, with subtitles in Dutch, and I can read them well enough to follow the story.

I was impressed. It's a supernatural whodunit set in 1830, as the workers' revolt against King Charles X (IX?) is about to erupt. Two prominent citizens have been struck by lightning. They had other, less public connections. A judge fears he will be the third. Former bandit Vidocq has become former cop, after disagreements with the Commissaire; while investigating the incidents as a private eye, Vidocq has fallen afoul of legendary villain The Alchemist. A journalist tries to pick up the trail...

(Not a spoiler; this is just the start of the story)

It's true there's not much character development, but it's basically a thriller.

Lots of blood, about 1-1/2 breasts but no beasts. Joe Bob says check it out twice.
 
 
Sebastian
00:54 / 16.12.02
I've been thinking, this thing of "much" or "less" character development, I think it really is much or less depending on the nature of the story. For a fast paced suspense 90 minutes thriller you would necessarily get "less" than in a psychological Bergan-esque 210 minutes drama, and in both cases it would be okay.

For Vidocq, more character development would be sort of a burden. In Sleepy Hollow I remember that the personal story of the main character portrayed by Deep was sort of weighing down the whole headless rider main story a bit until they sort of tangentially tied up, but I can't remember exactly how.

Remember The Fearless Vampire Killers? Character development there was nice -and tight- and relied basically in the premises of other movies of the "vampire" genre. You never actually got to know a crap about the four main characters, and most of the things you instinctively "knew" about them were derived from the mere characterisation -the "vampire-prof", the "student", the "girl", and the "psycho-vamp"- that was heavily alluding to ol' Hammer's portraits of similar characters. It was good and keen also how anti-semitic delusions predated the whole movie setting, becaming explicit in the deranged villain's discourse near the end, making a curious cross link with other movies and issues.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
22:12 / 19.12.02
Is it even out in the States yet? Last I heard it was still in limbo.
 
  
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