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Hangover wisdom

 
 
Smoothly
09:24 / 13.12.02
As we fill up on festive spirits, what's the best way to fight the inevitable overhang?
I know doctors say you're supposed to drink lots of water, but I don't believe that since beer is about 95% water and that gives me a worse hangover than meths. But that's doctors for you.
So what do you do? Do you have any secret remedies, strategies for prevention, or tips on damage limitation?

I'll start:
2 aspirins before you start drinking, and 2 more before you go to bed.
 
 
Bear
09:36 / 13.12.02
Iron Bru always helps a little I think but that's probably all in the mind. I'll let you know in the afternoon!
 
 
Linus Dunce
11:16 / 13.12.02
Beer is mostly water, but you pee it out again before it soaks in. I'm a bit wary of aspirin before you drink, after all, your liver's got enough to do that night.

This is tried and tested, trust me:

-A pint of water before you go to bed. This is difficult for me because when I am drunk I am a master of the universe and therefore immune to hangovers, so I often don't think I need to bother. But I do.

-Unles you have to be somewhere, sleep in. What's the point of catching the best part of the day if you feel like you've been kicked in the head by a mangey donkey?

-No coffee or cigarettes the next morning. They will only make you feel worse. Only tea and ibruprofen or aspirin.

-You may feel like vomiting, but you must get some calories inside you. Even a glass of fruit juice will help.
 
 
drzener
11:21 / 13.12.02
Waters the main thing. Hangovers are caused by dehydration.You need some electrolytes (e.g. salt) to stop you pissing all the water back out. I swear by 2 pints of water and a packet of salt & vinegar crisps before sleeping. it works for me and I used to get lethal hangovers.
 
 
Dances with Gophers
11:23 / 13.12.02
Sports drinks help, Isostar, Lucozade Gatorade or similar, failing that flat coke. Helps get the electrolytes back in the system.
 
 
The Natural Way
11:23 / 13.12.02
What's all that four aspirins, no water shit, Weaving? Are you trying to kill people? Listen, sonny-jim, water is the ONLY cure for a hangover - and a shitload of it.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
11:23 / 13.12.02
I don't eat or drink anything except water for about three hours after I wake up and then I eat a really greasy fried breakfast/lunch/dinner* consisting of bacon, sausages, beans, eggs, fried bread, tomato and pretty much anything else on offer. It makes me feel about twenty times better and then I drink a very strong cup of tea. Those three hours are always a bit dodgy though!

*delete as applicable
 
 
Smoothly
11:51 / 13.12.02
The water thing. I don't get it.
You're drinking straight vodka all evening. When you've had enough, you down the last one and in order to reduce the ensuing hangover you drink a pint of water. Why does drinking a pint of lager not have the same effect? It's just water and a splash of alcohol isn't it? Why does the body react to that particular mixture in your stomach differently from a mixture of water with a splash of vodka in it?

Also, drzener, the salt thing. Isn't salt a diuretic?
 
 
The Natural Way
11:56 / 13.12.02
Because, as someone's explained above, alcohol DEHYDRATES you and that's what causes hangovers. 4 ASPIRIN? 4 ASPIRIN, Weaving? That's a great way to end up in hospital.... I mean, how wrong can you actually get it?
 
 
captain piss
12:00 / 13.12.02
I don't eat or drink anything except water for about three hours after I wake up and then I eat a really greasy fried breakfast/lunch/dinner* consisting of bacon, sausages, beans, eggs, fried bread, tomato and pretty much anything else on offer. It makes me feel about twenty times better and then I drink a very strong cup of tea. Those three hours are always a bit dodgy though!- janina doesn't eat... sweetcorn

Your greasy spoon advice is contradicted by a recent issue of Men's Health (though i'm embarassed to admit to being a reader). Greasy foods should be eschewed- eat fruit (espesh bananas or mangos) or maybe beans on toast.
Definitely stand by the water thing- good advice- a pint before bed and you'll feel 10 times better.
 
 
Linus Dunce
12:01 / 13.12.02
I think the water thing is all a matter of timing.

Water, while you're drinking it in beer or as a chaser to vodka(?), will leave the body quite quickly due to the very diuretic effect of alcoholic drinks. You've noticed the extra trips to the bathroom, right? But if you drink water after you've finished drinking booze, it stays in a bit longer and gets absorbed into body tissue.

Salt on its own won't help dehydration one bit, but if, like drzener, you drink water with a little salt and/or sugar, the H2O gets absorbed quicker because of the way your innards work.
 
 
Smoothly
12:07 / 13.12.02
Runce. That's two pairs of aspirins taken with probably 6 or 7 hours between them. That's not dangerous is it? The instructions say take 2 every 4 - 6 hours, not exceeding 6 tablets in 24 hours. Is that wrong?
And I believe that alcohol dehydrates you, but why doesn't a pint of water, mixed with the remaining alcohol in your stomach, dehydrate you in the same way that beer does (another mixture of a pint of water with some alcohol)?
 
 
Smoothly
12:10 / 13.12.02
Ignatious, I missed your post. So the pre-bed pint of water should be a while after you've stopped drinking? Do you know roughly how long alcohol takes to go through your system?
 
 
Linus Dunce
12:10 / 13.12.02
"Shitloads" of water in one go isn't good for you either. A pint or so at a time is better.
 
 
Linus Dunce
12:28 / 13.12.02
Smoothly. The aspirins are fine on their own. But mixed with another drug, alcohol, and its side-effects, dehydration, they're not so benign. If you look at the pack, there may well be a contra-indication to taking it while on other drugs.

So the pre-bed pint of water should be a while after you've stopped drinking? Do you know roughly how long alcohol takes to go through your system?

Yes, but only a little while. Perhaps the time it takes you to get home is enough. Remember how the trips to the bathroom slow down shortly after you stopped drinking?

And IIRC, a drink can take up to half-an-hour to take its full effect drunk-wise, and a pint of beer will take about an hour to metabolise in yer average male. So, e.g. it will take about eight hours to sober up after eight pints of beer. This is a very rough rule of thumb though. I wouldn't assume it was exact enough for you to risk your driving license on.
 
 
gridley
12:32 / 13.12.02
Janina, I'm totally with you on the greasy breakfast. My prefered greasy breakfast is the cheesesteak. The grease coats your stomach. The food absorbs any unabsorbed alcohol. Of course, I also down gallons of water.

Oh, if you're a non-smoker, try to make sure you don't wear any of the same clothes the next day. Sometimes the smell of smoke reminds my stomach of how much it drank.
 
 
Cloudhands
12:49 / 13.12.02
prevent the hangover in the first place by only drinking vodka, clear drinks don't give you as bad hangovers as dark drinks.
If you can be botthered, excercising is a good hangover cure, doing something like tai chi or yoga.
 
 
Linus Dunce
13:03 / 13.12.02
Just clarify the water timing -- after the flow of pee starts to slow, and before you start feeling shit.

Smokey clothes -- alcohol slows your brain's connections. When you start sobering up, your brain is flooded with input, so your senses will be exaggerated. Nasty smells, bright lights, loud noises etc. will all be worse than normal.

Exercise -- like the water, in moderation. Going to the gym or jogging would be bad for your liver and I think your heart. But hey, I take aspirin the next day so ...
 
 
Cloudhands
13:09 / 13.12.02
oh yeah remember to wash! getting rid of all the shit on your skin from the night before will make you feel loads better.
 
 
mixmage
16:06 / 13.12.02
I'm in the "water before loads of sleep" camp... a pint and twelve hours or so.
I've heard the "aspirin before sleep" technique, but with the variation of leaving them on a chair on your bed, so that you will remember to take them no matter how wrecked you arrive there.
 
 
w1rebaby
21:52 / 13.12.02
Get into the habit of ordering a glass of water at the same time as you order each drink. It also has the advantage of being cheaper.

Don't drink for the week beforehand. Difficult over Christmas, I know. You won't lose your tolerance but you'll be in better physical shape.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
21:57 / 13.12.02
I couldn't drink that much water, it would make me feel like I had the sea in my stomach, the greasy breakfast makes me feel better plus it has all the fattest food groups in it and replaces everything I feel I've lost when I drink too much (bear in mind I avoid anything green like the plague).
 
 
drzener
00:11 / 14.12.02
oh sweetjesus ( or jaysis if that makes you fell better), drinking is supposed to make you feel shit). As a simple chemical/physical/empotional thing, drinking alchohol makes you depressed/dehydrated. THAT is part of the fun. The pain goes with the pleasure. There is certain steps you can take to minimize this.
What I said before is true. salts help you keep fluids in your system. I do like getting drunk even though at times in my history it has been the worst option. I don't know what to say but that I have been a heavy drinker and have learnt from my mistakes. The 'oul salt & vinegar crisps will stop you from dying if you get some pure fluids in your system.
 
 
drzener
00:17 / 14.12.02
on the off - fuck pankillers - people get addicted to that jazz you know
 
 
Smoothly
16:02 / 15.12.02
But getting addicted to pain killers is part of the fun. Etc.
 
 
Mourne Kransky
17:15 / 15.12.02
Simple hangover avoidance tips from this site:

Alcohol is a poison and hangover symptoms stem from the body's attempts to process alcohol and rid your system of it.

Dehydration is a major, but not the only, cause. Congeners, toxic chemicals that are created during the alcohol fermentation process, also play a big part. They give flavor, smell and appearance to alcohol and exist in varying amounts in different liquors so stick to drinks with fewer of them.

A full stomach before you drink does slow the absorption of alcohol, but this is because when food is present in your stomach, the stomach's pyloric sphincter closes to allow the food to digest. This closed pyloric sphincter keeps alcohol in the stomach, where enzymes begin preemptively neutralizing it before it gets sent off to your liver to be processed.

DON'T EVER TAKE ASPIRIN, paracetamol or ibuprofen while drinking or before passing out at the end of the night (unless prescribed by a sober physician).

Acetaminophen (Tylenol) is metabolized by the liver and the combination of alcohol and acetaminophen can cause your liver to release a toxic metabolite. Alcohol mixed with acetaminophen is very dangerous and can do serious damage to your liver. Tylenol was recently forced to include warnings on its packaging telling its users not to mix it with alcohol. Ibuprofen is metabolized by your liver as well.

The loosening of inhibitions and suspension of better judgment we drink to achieve results in inability to drink quantities of water, sensibly, to combat dehydration. Also means we drink far too much and fail to observe pre-set limits.

My own tuppenceworth would be in support of antacids and a good, comprehensive fry-up for brunch. Works for me, washed down with miraculous Irn Bru or gallons of fruit juice and coffee.

This site identifies reduced-congener refreshments.

To put it simply, the more transparent your drinks, the less problems you will have the next morning. This is correct only for brandies though, as non filtered beer can be very good, especially because they contain a large vitamin b complex, which is important to protect you from brain pickling.

For instance:
* Vodka has less congeners than gin.
* Most scotch whiskey has about four times more congeners than gin does.
* Brandy, rum and singleĀ¼malt scotch have about six times more congeners than gin.
* Bourbon drinkers ingest eight times the amount of congeners as do gin drinkers.
* Red wine has more congeners than white wine does.


CHEERS!
 
 
Goodness Gracious Meme
17:23 / 15.12.02
Thanks to our health correspondent. And now, weather...
 
 
Mourne Kransky
17:27 / 15.12.02
Cold and wet in the Borough of Lambeth.

*gesticulates at bluescreen behind him and smiles a Swedish smile*
 
 
Cosmicjamas
17:43 / 15.12.02
☺ Don't drink on an empty stomach
☺ Drink a pint of water before retiring to bed
☺ Paracetamol (recommended dose!) works well next day
☺ So does black coffee
 
 
Shortfatdyke
17:57 / 15.12.02
I find that, before leaving a pub, a glass of Diet Coke actually sobers me up, totally and completely. It's wierd. If I'm in the mood to stay drunk, then I've never had better than tea and toast - as much as you want - to sort out a hangover.
 
 
Smoothly
18:11 / 15.12.02
Thanks for putting me straight on the aspirin thing Xocher.

*Shambles off pondering what other tips he's accepted from people who clearly don't care for him as much he thinks they do*
 
 
Sid Zero
19:58 / 15.12.02
[Nevermind the bad spelling nor the bad English, I'm drunk right now]

As stated above, a hangover is mostly a symptom of alcohol withdrawal. Well, so just give your body what it wants: More alcohol. Drink a beer and go to bed again. In Bavaria, this is referred to as a "Konter-Hoibe". Millions of bavarian alcoholics can't be wrong.

Shit. I dont want want to what my hangover's gonna be like tomorrow. But surely I'm gonna drink some more water. This always worked quite fine.

Your south-german drunkard,
Sid Zero.
 
 
Sid Zero
20:01 / 15.12.02
Alternatively, just puke it all out and drink some water. Then you really shouldn't make the mistake and eat an aspirin. Imagine your stomach as a glass of water. Throw in an aspirin. Go figure. Good night.
 
 
Cloned Christ on a HoverDonkey
21:16 / 15.12.02
I'm scared.

Just had a lovely bottle of Wolf Blass Cab. Sauv., followed by a bottle of 'Double Drop', a bottle of 'Banana Bread Beer', followed by a bottle of 'Waggledance' - all of which must contain many, many times my proscribed quantities of congeners. This is, according to my per-planned agenda (wife's out, taking 6 month old baby with her) is to be followed by several cans of Red Stripe and maybe some Guinness Original, time (and sobriety) allowing.

Tonight isn't unique, though, and I find a pint of H2O before bed, followed by an hour of pure energising liquids upon wakening (black coffee, pure orange juice, diet coke), then a decent fried breakfast tends to work wonders.

I always find, though, that immediately after the brekkie I feel a helluva lot worse than I did upon waking up (is this due to the sudeden demand on my body for digestive enzymes?), but this soon clears within 10 minutes of finishing aforementioned brekkie.

A few ciggies and another diet coke (and maybe another 2 or 3 black coffees with sweetener) & I'm ready to face the world again.........

Albeit a little hung-over.
 
 
Linus Dunce
21:13 / 16.12.02
Not sure whether or not I believe congeners cause hangovers. And, for the past few years, clear spirits have made me me gag, even diluted with coke or whatever.

Except when they're in cocktails.

Or gin. Mmm. Gin.
 
  
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