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Millar/morrison

 
 
louisemichel
16:53 / 12.12.02
ok, what is exactly the situation between Mark Millar and Grant Morrison ?
Is there a feud of some kind betwwen the two ?

Does in the know, please, enlight us !
 
 
The Falcon
01:23 / 13.12.02
I don't know. They're still bigging up each other's comics. I asked Millar last night, on his 'Millar Hour', because it was the only thing I could think of, whether he was going to ever work with GM again - he said "I haven't cowritten anything since 1997. It's very difficult-- like two people trying to play the guitar at once. We stopped doing it when it stopped being a laugh."

Here's the link.

Lying in the Gutters did suggest, a while ago, all was not right between the two, though.

Fuck, it's their business, I guess.
 
 
Jack Denfeld
02:57 / 13.12.02
Years ago when I would read Morrison interviews, it was all about, "Me, and Garth Ennis, and Warren Ellis, and Mark Millar will take over the world of comics." And I was like "Who the fuck is Mark Millar? Doesn't he write the Superman cartoon book ro something?"

I guess its akin to you becoming a famous actor, wanting your friend to be acting with you because your friends and you believe in his talents, so you let him costar with you in some films, until he's marketable to do films without you. Would you want to go back to working with someone who was essentially doing you a favor, even if it brought you back mentally when you were still trying to prove yourself.

I know I don't necessarily like working with my friends.
 
 
Imaginary Mongoose Solutions
18:57 / 13.12.02
Rumor has it that it involves Millar outing Morrison as the ghostwriter of millar's first ish of his Authority run. If the Internet wags are to be believed.
 
 
gridley
19:35 / 13.12.02
That's funny. My friends and I thought we saw Morrison's fingerprints all over the Millar's early Authority. Somethiing about the Iron Man character going "I've always wanted to test these things out on real babies!"

But why would that make Grant mad?
 
 
louisemichel
08:17 / 14.12.02
Actually, I thought it was the other way.
Morrison ghosted the Authority issue with Pokegod (or such) and Millar said so.
But I heard that the secret was supposed to be well kept... As everyone knows it now, it wasn't...
Was that the beginning of the feud ?
Or is it plain jealeousy/rivalry between the two ?
kinda "you taughgt me everything you knew","no, I taught you everything you know and that's a big difference..."
 
 
Graeme McMillan
13:54 / 14.12.02
Morrison ghosted the second last issue of Millar's run, and outed himself, which pissed Millar off. The current rumours are more to do with Millar believing his own hype and becoming more of a company man, which amused Morrison more than anything, but make Millar a bit of an arse to be around.
 
 
Eloi Tsabaoth
14:53 / 14.12.02
No, listen, right, I've got this mate who knows this other bloke who knows Millar and Morrison, and apparently, right, Millar has all this time been writing under the name Grant Morrison, right, but he wasn't having any success, and then he hired this drunken Glaswegian bloke to pretend to be Grant, right, and cause a bit of controversy, and he was really successful, like in that Sherlock Holmes film with Michael Caine, but then, right, Millar decided he wanted to be successful under his own name, so he started writing as Mark Millar, but dumbed it down, right, so no-one would twig they were the same bloke, and he became successful, but now, right, he's exhausted from writing about 6 different comic series simultaneously, so he's planning to kill off Grant Morrison, but the actor who plays Morrison isn't happy about it, right.
Right?
 
 
louisemichel
16:18 / 14.12.02
Right.
 
 
Graeme McMillan
17:40 / 14.12.02
Didn't someone once write in some American comics magazine (TCJ maybe?) that Alan Moore, Grant Morrison, Pete Milligan, Alan Grant, Pat Mills et al were all actually the same person?

And Brian Michael Bendis is actually just a pen name for Bill Jemas. As The Free Association say, everybody knows it's true.
 
 
Max Zero
00:27 / 15.12.02
From Morrison’s ‘Drivel’ column.
‘Speakeasy’ magazine; March 1990.


LIVING A LIE

If any of you bothered to read the latest issue of ‘Amazing Heroes’ you will have come across a rather intriguing editorial. This editorial offered a dozen or so points of evidence which proved fairly conclusively that all the writers in British comics are actually only two people. According to ‘Amazing Heroes’ there is the guy who writes ‘Judge Dredd’ and there is the guy who does post-modern things to DC superheroes. Pointing to the undeniable similarity of names like Pat Mills, Pete Milligan, Alan Grant, Grant Morrison, Alan Moore, Neil Gaiman and Jamie Delano – who “doesn’t quite fit the theory but you know what I mean” – the ‘Amazing Heroes’ editorial staff make the startling claim that all these people are, in fact, one single person. Preposterous, isn’t it?

Except that it’s true.

I can’t go on anymore, living this vile lie. I confess, I confess. I am Neil Gaiman. I am Alan Moore. I am Jamie Delano and Pat Mills. ‘Grant Morrison’ is only another of my fictional alter-egos. I am also the richest man in Britain and I work a 24-hour day. It’s all true. What more can I do? I promise to wear a hair-shirt and regularly flagellate myself in front of a blown-up photograph of Cannon and Ball. So the thing is, now that you know I’m Alan Moore, don’t you think you should all rush out and buy ‘Doom Patrol’? It’s only selling 34,000 copies you see, which really isn’t what we’ve come to expect from the author of ‘Watchmen’ and ‘The Killing Joke’… and ‘Sandman’, and ‘Hellblazer’, and ‘Marshal Law’ etc etc.

So, now that we know who writes all the British-based comics, I think we deserve to be told the name of the person who writes all those awful American-based comics. This person is an affront to human intelligence, and I demand that we find him now and feed him at once to a herd of ranting Rotweilers.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
12:44 / 16.12.02
i don't believe there is any feud at all.

grant might be pissed off that his mate has left glasgow for the states but that's probably it.
 
 
The Falcon
15:25 / 16.12.02
I hope so.
 
 
Graeme McMillan
02:37 / 17.12.02
Yawn: "grant might be pissed off that his mate has left glasgow for the states but that's probably it."

Mark's still in Scotland, you know...
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
07:06 / 17.12.02
well, in that case, that's why gm's fucked off. Cos he's not gone yet.
 
 
ONLY NICE THINGS
07:22 / 17.12.02
Yeah, but I think we're missing the point here. Can anyone here give an accurate description of their kissing technique?
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
09:59 / 17.12.02
cue: crap joke about headbutting.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
12:29 / 17.12.02
Hey, Mark. Thanks for posting that DRIVEL column bit. Are those archived online?
 
 
Graeme McMillan
12:36 / 18.12.02
"well, in that case, that's why gm's fucked off. Cos he's not gone yet."

I know I'm pissed off that Mark Millar's still around.
 
 
yawn - thing's buddy
07:03 / 19.12.02
should he be shot?
 
 
Graeme McMillan
13:25 / 19.12.02
Possibly.
 
 
The Falcon
13:50 / 19.12.02
Mark's alright. Mind, he's wearing that 'company man' shit a bit thin with me.
 
 
FinderWolf
17:00 / 09.12.04
I really want a paperback of the Millar/Morrison FLASH year!!!

Who's with me!?!?!?!
 
 
Jake, Colossus of Clout
18:25 / 09.12.04
I'd love a paperback of that.

Anyway, I'm skeptical of there being a 'feud,' per se. However, Millar does say some stupid shit. Here's a tidbit from a Wizard interview: "Marvel absolutely kicked DC's ass on sales and just the lineup of creators that Joe's personally assembled at Marvel annihilates DC. DC's got like three good guys and Marvel has about ten superstars."

I wonder if he counts Grant there? Geoff Jones and Jeph Loeb were in the room at the time (along with that hack Bendis). I think Millar's act is a little tired, and I personally don't think he's that great a writer, either. Definitely not in my top tier of comic creators, and certainly not a "superstar" by any stretch of the imagination. Maybe he'll do something groundbreaking someday, but he has yet to do anything original. He took over Ellis' Authority, did a little Swamp Thing with Grant and writes tried-and-true Marvel characters with a certain amount of wit. He has yet to do a single original book, as far as I know. A feud between Millar and Morrison is like the first time a kid tries to test himself against his dad.
 
 
H3ct0r L1m4
15:16 / 10.12.04
zombie threads! they refuse to die! at least they prevent reposting...

you guys are probably on the money, plus every other partnership always tend to burn itself out - just like with most rock bands.

I guess there'll be more details on this in Grant's biography, whenever Craig McGill gets a publisher/schedule for it.
 
  
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