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000
01:45 / 11.12.02
Al Qaeda Web Site Threatens Israel

WASHINGTON - An Internet site claiming to represent Al Qaeda says the
terrorist network has decided to conduct suicide attacks against a new
target, Israel, and says its goal is the destruction of the Jewish state.

American officials said they believed that the Web site, www.mojahedoon.net, indeed spoke for Al Qaeda and that intelligence officers had been monitoring it for some time.

-->> More

Al-Qaeda threatens more Mombasa-style attacks in new web claim

DUBAI, Dec 8 (AFP) - The al-Qaeda network of Osama bin Laden threatened more attacks on Israeli and US targets in a fresh claim of responsibility Sunday for last month's attacks in Kenya which killed 13 people.

"The two Mombasa attacks are the work of al-Qaeda," the group's spokesman Sulaiman Abu Ghaith said in a voice recording posted on the jehadonline.org Islamist website.

"The Crusader-Jewish alliance will no longer be immune from attack anywhere, " Abu Ghaith warned.

-->> More

PUBLIC DECLARATIONS FROM OSAMA BIN-LADEN’S RIGHT-HAND MAN

Osama bin-Laden’s right hand man boasted about the terrorist strike on Israeli tourists in Kenya days before the atrocity – and has warned that more attacks against the West are imminent.

Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, who is regarded as the official spokesman for al-Quaeda, made some startling and shocking claims in Arabic on an audio tape. His revelations included:

* Bin-Laden will make another television broadcast within the next 10 days.

* Taliban fighters are preparing to regroup and start another war in
Afghanistan.

* Terrorist operations against American and Jewish targets are about to be launched.

* Suicide bombers are preparing to wreak havoc across the globe.

-->> More

[Please remember that the alleged Bin Ladin tape was a fake and mistranslated.
 
 
Jack Fear
02:49 / 11.12.02
Israel Suicide-Bombing Plot Shocker!

In other news: Water "Wet," Say Scientists
 
 
Jack Fear
02:59 / 11.12.02
I find it interesting, though, that you assert that the Bin Laden tape was a fake (and I agree, by the way, that it probably was), yet you seem to accept without question that this website which "claims to represent al-Qaeda" is genuine.

"American officials said they believed that the Web site, www.mojahedoon.net, indeed spoke for Al Qaeda..."

Which American officials are these? The same ones who said that the aforementioned tape was "almost certainly the voice of Osama bin Laden"--and who still say that, even after the Swiss experts proclaimed it a fake?

They're not exactly the brightest minds in the "intelligence" biz, are they?
 
 
Baz Auckland
04:24 / 11.12.02
Someone I know pointed out that at the same moment the US was having trouble convincing anyone to join its ongoing war, Bin Laden just happened to release a tape saying "you're next: Britain, Australia, France, Canada, and Germany!"

Not that the US government would make that sort of thing up or anything...
 
 
000
13:07 / 11.12.02
@yet you seem to accept without question that this website which "claims to represent al-Qaeda" is genuine.@

Oh, Jack, you should know me better than that.

This is intended, by the way, to record all these alleged threats that have been on & off since a certain September day last year.
 
 
Jack Fear
13:16 / 11.12.02
Oh, Jack, you should know me better than that...

That still doesn't explain the inherent contradiction...
 
 
000
14:24 / 11.12.02
Yes. Quite.

*Clears throat*

The inherent contradiction?

Of my choice of presenting it, my past here, or of the sources?

Sensing it might be mostly the latter, my thoughts exactly! When the Danish news proclaimed to have set an expert to determine whether or not it was Bin Laden (promising a kind of "we have the inside scoop on this terribly intriguing story") I knew something was rotten, and they, clearly, said that it was the genuine article, otherwise, can you imagine it if they had gone off and told it to be false?

Anyway, I find it odd too, that the news should breathe fire upon this at certain intervals, and like you, I wonder how they go about it in the news business...

Who determines what goes up?

Who owns the news medias (assuming that most of the figureheads are only that: figureheads)? Not assuming that, what's up with these people?

Or perhaps you, Jack, can explain the inherent contradiction better...???
 
 
rizla mission
14:38 / 11.12.02
Al Qaeda Web Site Threatens Israel

who'd have thunk it.
 
 
000
15:09 / 11.12.02
April: FBI says government received al-Qaida threats against banks

He asked citizens to report suspicious activity to the FBI. Ashcroft said the information ''may or may not be reliable.''
The government has issued industry-specific warnings since Sept. 11 about possible attacks against trucking companies, dams and water-supply systems, crop dusters and nuclear plants.

''Our policy is to share information with appropriate authorities and the American public when we have threat information that merits their attention,'' Ashcroft said. ''We believe that this information sharing disrupts and prevents terrorist activity.''

FBI Director Robert Mueller said, ''Every threat has a different value in terms of credibility.''-->> More

May: Al-Qaida's messages hint at new terror attack

U.S. intelligence agencies have intercepted a vague yet troubling series of communications among al-Qaida operatives over the past few months indicating that the terrorist organization is trying to carry out an operation as big as or bigger than the Sept. 11 attacks, according to intelligence and law-enforcement officials. -->> More

June: Al-Qaida: Bin Laden still alive

Osama bin Laden and his No. 2 man are both alive and well and their al-Qaida network is ready to attack new U.S. targets, bin Laden's spokesman said in audiotaped remarks aired Sunday. The message also claimed responsibility for a deadly April fire at a Jewish synagogue in Tunisia. -->>


July: Al Qaida makes more threats

Osama bin Laden's al Qaida network has threatened more attacks on the United States.
"Al Qaida will organize more attacks inside American territory and outside, at the moment we choose, at the place we choose and with the objectives that we want," Sulaiman Abu Ghaith, a spokesman for the group told Algeria's El Youm newspaper Tuesday. -->>
More

October: New threats leveled by alleged al-Qaida strategist

Another interview has surfaced, in which a man identified as a top al-Qaida leader is threatening new attacks on the U-S.

In the interview, he warns the U-S to quickly leave the Mideast and Afghanistan -- or risk losing "everything."

He also threatens new attacks on America's allies and its economy. -->> More

New York on alert after recent al-Qaida threats -->> More

CIA: Al-Qaida threats growing

CIA Director George Tenet said on Thursday al-Qaida has reorganized, is in an “execution phase” and intends to attack Americans overseas and on US soil, amid a threat situation as serious as in the months leading up to last year’s Sept. 11 attacks.

Tenet, at a joint hearing before the congressional intelligence committees, also said the CIA and the FBI could not be flawless all the time in fighting the terror threat.

“The threat environment we find ourselves in today is as bad as it was last summer, the summer before 9/11,” Tenet told the committees. “It is serious, they’ve reconstituted, they are coming after us, they want to execute attacks.” -->> More

And this is just the tip, you know?
 
 
Jack Fear
15:14 / 11.12.02
Who determines what goes up?
Who owns the news media?


Ahh. So it's the old Zionist Media Conspiracy again, is it?
 
 
gotham island fae
15:27 / 11.12.02
Or perhaps you [the reader] can explain the inherent contradiction better...???

Oneword (then some after...)

DOUBLETHINK

Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them. The Party intellectual knows in which direction his memories must be altered; he therefore knows that he is playing tricks with reality; but by the exercise of doublethink he also satisfies himself that reality is not violated. The process has to be conscious, or it would not be carried out with sufficient precision, but it also has to be unconscious, or it would bring with it a feeling of falsity and hence of guilt.

Orwell was brilliant. Evidentally, the Boy-King thinks so, too. The belief that Americans are in danger from an imminent attack must be kept in place regardless of the lack of evidence to support it.

Another example can be seen in the Homeland Security - Citizenry Spying policies that have been steadily implemented over the past year and three months. We are creating a secure homeland by distrusting our neighbors. That idea also sounds like it contains an inherent contradiction. Doublethink.

Just an immediate reaction.

I love Big Brother.
 
 
000
18:39 / 11.12.02
@Ahh. So it's the old Zionist Media Conspiracy again, is it?@

Are you lacking in sugar?

It's an honest to god question. Did you fail to note that there were no meditated answers following my questions? Or has your knee jerk reaction become ingrained in your weary, old bones?

I miss the gentle, sensitive Jack.
 
 
Jack Fear
19:34 / 11.12.02
I am weary, Chrome, and without getting too deeply into this, let me just point out:

You're being highly selective in your sources. The al-Qaeda-threatens-Israel story has gotten very little play in the U.S. media: now, given that the U.S. is Israel's staunchest ally, and given that current conspiracy theory holds that the U.S. government is a puppet in thrall to Zionist forces, doesn't that strike you as odd?

There is no monolithic media voice in the States: there is instead a plurality of voices, each accusing the other of bias. Fox News is roundly criticized for its right-wing bias: Andrew Sullivan has declared a jihad on "paleo-liberalism" at the New York Times: CNN and Time magazine (part of the same media conglomerate) skew center-right: National Public Radio has a lot of Jewish surnames on its masthead, yet veers so far leftward on Israel that critics sometimes call it "National Palestinian Radio." Different sources, different shadings: no one truth, no single emphasis.

By choosing the news items you did, you attempted to manipulate the debate, just as blatantly as if you had included "meditated responses" after your items. Ommission can be as powerful a persuader as inclusion: I intuited what you were trying to convey bsed on your past attitudes, and the highly selective manner in which presented your items.

You don't necessarily need to tell people what to think, if you can control what they think about. And your attempt to do so irritates me
 
 
000
20:58 / 11.12.02
@You're being highly selective in your sources.@

As I have to be, a broader selection necessitates more time to pluck and represent an all-inclusive posting. Remember ‘this is just the tip,’ a few posts earlier?

@The al-Qaeda-threatens-Israel story has gotten very little play in the U.S. media: now, given that the U.S. is Israel's staunchest ally, and given that current conspiracy theory holds that the U.S. government is a puppet in thrall to Zionist forces, doesn't that strike you as odd?@

Given that you opened this can, let me tell you that the odd thing doesn’t stop there – 1,6 Trillion to Israel, Why? And why does it surface now?

@there is no monolithic media voice in the States: there is instead a plurality of voices, each accusing the other of bias.@

In a perfect world, division doesn’t exist. We both know that this isn’t a perfect world. Diverse division can be said to be a plus for the people, as every mind has the right to support an idea, a stance and action according to their heart’s desire. Except that censorship exists, and that an anti-stance to the ruling parties is punishable, now in a much more overt way in the U.S. Any clashes of ideologies and deeply held beliefs should ideally leave both parties with something to chew on, raising the level of knowledge and compassion – a fact which isn’t employed very much in the world of news and politics.

Diverse division can also be a hindrance to growth and advance inert POVs, a being trapped in a sea of dilemma and therefore more prone to passivity, which isn’t a healthy position for human beings.

What one can strive towards is be true to one’s own nature, and hopefully not be against the laws of nature which are very basic. However, there are too many people who are not aware of certain things and who are kept in that place of ignorance by so many things in life, and I call that suppression. Suppression exists, Jack, which robs people from choices. By discovering and enacting some choices, it is certainly possible to maintain a balance with oneself and sharpen one’s perceptiveness.

@By choosing the news items you did, you attempted to manipulate the debate, just as blatantly as if you had included "meditated responses" after your items.@

Newsflash, Jack, this is a debate forum. When doesn’t an instigator manipulate the debate, especially the creator of the topic? But it doesn’t necessarily mean that I won’t budge. Quite the contrary, this is vastly removed from my past attitudes, haven’t you noticed how hard I am trying to mingle?

@Ommission can be as powerful a persuader as inclusion: I intuited what you were trying to convey bsed on your past attitudes, and the highly selective manner in which presented your items.

You don't necessarily need to tell people what to think, if you can control what they think about. And your attempt to do so irritates me@


Jumping the gun here but missing the point entirely, I am interested in the threats which are routinely announced and I wonder why this is so – a potent threat is, after all, something that causes effects, it isn’t an entity upon itself, only.

So, for your Zionism-conspiracy debate, go elsewhere. For everything else, put your 2 cents in.
 
 
000
21:22 / 11.12.02
Me: @And why does it surface now?

"Gaza head of preventive security Rashid Abu Shbak told journalists at a press conference that Israeli agents, posing as operatives of Osama bin Laden's terrorist group, recruited Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

"Over the past nine months, we've been investigating eight cases in which Israeli intelligence posing as Al-Qaeda operatives recruited Palestinians in the Gaza Strip," said Abu Shbak, referring to a series of e-mails and phone call conversations."

 
 
000
23:49 / 12.12.02
The smallpox threat

"(CBS) Smallpox may be the worst disease ever known to man -- it killed about half a billion people from 1880 to 1980, before it was eradicated. And the smallpox vaccine is deadly too -- scientists call it the most dangerous vaccine known to man.

Today smallpox is a potential weapon of mass destruction that could be wielded against the US by enemies like Iraq and al Qaeda. The Bush administration now faces a deadly dilemma: Do not vaccinate the population against small pox and leave millions of people vulnerable to one of the worst scourges known to man. Or treat people with a vaccine that is extremely effective at blocking the disease but can cause dangerous, sometimes fatal reactions. 60 Minutes II Correspondent Dan Rather reports on a story that puts everyone on the front lines in the war on terror."

Link & anti-link
 
 
000
18:22 / 13.12.02
Smallpox threat, continued

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush on Friday announced a plan to start vaccinating American soldiers and civilians, including himself, against smallpox as a precaution against an enemy attack.

Link
 
 
Spatula Clarke
08:34 / 16.12.02
Can you put a moderation request in for whichever post has got screwy HTML, before the board implodes? I think it's probably this one.
 
 
000
09:40 / 16.12.02
I did, I did.

Did it 2 days ago.
 
  
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