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UK Transsexuals Win Gender Recognition Rights

 
 
Shortfatdyke
06:35 / 10.12.02
Finally, the UK is going to catch up with most of the rest of Europe in allowing trans people the right to change their birth certificates, national insurance details and to marry. Am I being complacent by putting this in the Conversation as a piece of information, rather than an issue for discussion? Does anyone here think this is a bad thing?
 
 
that
07:12 / 10.12.02
About time too. A very good thing.
 
 
sleazenation
07:57 / 10.12.02
Well i shoved the stuff about the proposed law changes over formal gay paternerships in the headshop -purely cos i thought it was more current affairsy - but that's just me.
 
 
Our Lady of The Two Towers
13:57 / 10.12.02
Good news. And good to see 'Press For Change' are still going, as the last time I checked their website it hadn't been updated for donkeys (soon after I got my 'Transexual Menace' t-shirt in fact). I wonder if the usual suspects in the Lords will get in the way, or as there's no suggestion of 'buggery' they'll let it through.

And I think this does deserve to go in the Switchboard.
 
 
Tryphena Absent
14:02 / 10.12.02
I like this in conversation because it probably deserves to go everywhere... and hooray!!!!
 
 
Shortfatdyke
14:59 / 10.12.02
Apparently the Lords are going to have a severe song and dance over this. Not hugely surprising, except that the Govt are only really going ahead with it because of a decision in Strasbourg - they don't have a choice. So where does that leave the Lords? Are they actually allowed to oppose it?
 
 
Spatula Clarke
15:18 / 10.12.02
The Lords can oppose whatever they want, nobody has to pay any attention.
 
 
Ganesh
19:05 / 10.12.02
Obviously, this is a Good Thing (we're one of only four European countries which have dragged their feet on this issue) and I was thinking of starting a thread on it myself - but I think it'll throw up a surprisingly large glut of legal inconsistences, contradictions and questions. Also a Good Thing in the long run, but I expect it'll take several years (and specimen/test cases) before all the wrinkles are ironed out.

When should someone be allowed to alter their birth certificate? Tying certification to genital modification surgery would falsely assume that a) all transpeople want genital surgery (around 50% of FTMs choose to go no further than mastectomy), and b) gender = genitalia. Allowing one to alter one's birth certificate beforehand however, is equally problematic and hugely open to abuse by those with other reasons for wishing to change their identities (or develop secondary ones). Then there's death certification to think of...

I've been working with transsexual people for a few months now, and am beginning to get some idea of the subtleties of the political landscape. Press For Change were at the big conference this summer; I'll have to check out their site to remind me of their particular agenda.
 
 
pointless and uncalled for
19:13 / 11.12.02
Woo Hoo, at last I work for someone at least halfway decent. After my many forays into working for government and big business I work under the Lord Chancellor (very far under, but still under). I'm quite impressed with his commentary on the subject that I've seen in the broadsheets. Hopefully it's actually true.
 
  
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